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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: rodger909 on November 18, 2011, 08:52 pm
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how often do u get buyers that say their package hasn't arrived, are these claims of non arrival mostly domestic or international post?
thx
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I don't have stats for how often buyers claim their package hasn't arrived. I've only had one individual that has claimed their order didn't arrive and I've sent out at least 30 packages.
Domestic orders are considered very safe and unlikely to be seized. It's getting past customs at an international border that is the concern.
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yer was kind of thinking that, main problem being international post and customs, domestic stuff usually arrives nps.
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Hi,
The basic is all about trust between buyer and the vendor...the middle risk is the post logistics that is between them.
I have experience with different of kind buyers who claims that there order didn't arrived but as a vendor i know what are the possibility and the risks of the post logistics in a country.
Good buyers are the one who accept the terms of the fair trade if a package get lost or never arrived.
Bad buyers are the one who show no empathy for the vendor fairtrade and aqueous him about the package get lost or never arrived by saying that he never send it.
Conclusion it is all about the good faith and trust between seller and buyer.
Example:
I send different kind of packages to Russia 100% and they all arrived:There post logistics is not perfect compare to the western world.
Rate: Feedback:
5 of 5 "excellent packing. seller send to russia, to ural - ~2 weeks"
The average of the postage logistics in the western country's is around 85% - 95% that a package arrived at the destination.
The Netherlands Domestic is around 95%.
Greets DutchShop,
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Never.
99% of my stuff is international from here, I'm UK based. US is my number one market by far.
I sell seeds other places besides here, and I only sell seeds.
I've had a few customs interceptions with orders forwarded with love letters and sealed with green tape. Maybe 2 or 3 a year.
With the exception of customs interceptions, I've never had a customer claim non-receipt.
The difference I think is that I often have 2 or 3 exchanges with my clients before they purchase. I can't imagine someone I've spent time helping to narrow down what strain they want to help with nausea they suffer during the day, is then going to turn around and try and rip me off for the value of a pack of seeds.
It's for that reason that I really don't put any credence in both parties from all these stories of non-arrivals. If a package didn't arrive, and there's no seizure letter, then either:
a) It was never sent, and the vendor is lying.
OR
b) It was received and the customer is lying, or his roommate or mother intercepted it.
There is no reason for properly addressed mail to not reach its' destination, period.
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Never.
99% of my stuff is international from here, I'm UK based. US is my number one market by far.
I sell seeds other places besides here, and I only sell seeds.
I've had a few customs interceptions with orders forwarded with love letters and sealed with green tape. Maybe 2 or 3 a year.
With the exception of customs interceptions, I've never had a customer claim non-receipt.
The difference I think is that I often have 2 or 3 exchanges with my clients before they purchase. I can't imagine someone I've spent time helping to narrow down what strain they want to help with nausea they suffer during the day, is then going to turn around and try and rip me off for the value of a pack of seeds.
It's for that reason that I really don't put any credence in both parties from all these stories of non-arrivals. If a package didn't arrive, and there's no seizure letter, then either:
a) It was never sent, and the vendor is lying.
OR
b) It was received and the customer is lying, or his roommate or mother intercepted it.
There is no reason for properly addressed mail to not reach its' destination, period.
that is actually not true. as of lately customs letters aren't sent out for all seizures because then it shows the package didn't arrive and the person could ask for a refund. there was an article on sr and somewhere else online talking about this. also your shipping seeds which isnt that much of a problem. there are tons of pseudo- legal seed sites from Hollands that sell to the us. i think that is why you have had so much luck they are looking for things more important then seeds from you area like molly or actual weed. i have only had one or two mishaps and they were from that selective scamming bastard shchizofreen and his numerous goddamn reships that didn't show up
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There is no reason for properly addressed mail to not reach its' destination, period.
and do you really believe that? so properly addressed mail hiding schedule 1 drugs should not be confiscated? are you crazy? customs and their workforce in each separate municipality is dedicated solely to confiscating our drugs. so yes confiscated packages do happen, but i do agree that it seems it happens too often, but then again look how many people we have on silkroad now.
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Way to selectively quote.
Yes, customs interceptions happen.
As many 'lost' packages as claimed on here do not. A lot of the time, somebody is lying.
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yes i quoted selectively because there is no reason to quote your whole post. all im saying is the way you make it seem is that they are always lying by saying there is no way that a properly addressed envelope shouldn't reach its destination. i am saying there are many ways and only one of them being the customer lying. dont get me wrong customer scams happen all the time but u think because your seeds always get to their destination everything else should too? it's illogical because why would they place the same level of security on seeds(which are sold publicly online from holland) as ecstasy or some of the other things from europe that have high confiscation rates?
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I don't have stats for how often buyers claim their package hasn't arrived. I've only had one individual that has claimed their order didn't arrive and I've sent out at least 30 packages.
Domestic orders are considered very safe and unlikely to be seized. It's getting past customs at an international border that is the concern.
You're either really lucky or a cop, because cops order packages on here all day and the ones they do get seized and there is no tracking info released.
I'm only selling a little at a time and only to people with established buyer stats. I will sell more to people that establish trust with me.